Excerpts from my e-mail battle from this morning....
From: Emily
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:00 PM
To: Dan
Subject: RE:

Do you think this dress would be nice for the x-mas party. It’s from
Fredrick’s of Hollywood and its only $89.00
From: Dan
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:18 PM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: FW:
She’s killing me!!!!
Look at what she’s going to wear to the x-mas party at the casino...
Where I already have booked an overnight room...
From: Jules
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:53 PM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: RE: FW:
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Just be careful!
From: Dan
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:53 PM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE: FW:
Don't worry about me, I'm just a perfect gentleman, "With a little bit
of Mississippi Leg-Hound in me" (From Christmas
Vacation)
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:49 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
OY.
Ya know, though...
It has to be said....
I question a girl who gets her dresses from Frederick's of Hollywood....
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:53 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
Go liz!!!!!
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:59 AM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE:
Stop ruining the fantasy!!!!!!
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:00 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
But am I RIGHT Jules????
I mean, I don't believe I've EVER bought CLOTHING from, of all the
places on the planet, FREDERICK'S OF HOLLYWOOD.
Whereas a Victoria's Secret says Sexy Sophisticated......
Frederick's of Hollywood says....
How to put this......
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:02 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
Tramp? Oh.... did I say that? Okay..... maybe EASY!
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:03 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
WHOOOO-AAAAHHHH
Oops !
Did that slip out?
CHEAP
(lizzie, shut your mouth !)
Ho????
OOOHHH !
I'm going to stop typing now !
Who knows what else I might say ! !
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:06 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
You know we say these things out of love......
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:08 AM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE:
Right!!!
It sucks being the little brother/Ho in training in the situation
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:08 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
LOL
You LOVE it and you KNOW it !
AND !
P.S., if it were anyone BUT this chick you would SOOOO be joining in ! ! ! ! ! !
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE:
So what's your point??
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:12 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
Ya know?.
I have this song running through my head?.
HEY !
HO !
HEY !
HO !
=0)
Seriously, though.
Here’s the deal.
WOMEN DO NOT SHOP AT LINGERIE STORES FOR CLOTHING UNLESS THEY ARE A BIT ON THE ??UM??.JULES, HELP ME OUT HERE?..QUESTIONABLE??..DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY?..SIDE.
Think of where, say, strippers shop.
NOT AT MACY’S
NOT AT FILENE’S
They shop in LINGERIE stores because they want super REVEALING clothing.
And.
Honestly.
If this dress is for a Christmas party that’s for your company then I REALLY have to question her.
When you’re going out with your co-workers you typically would lean more to the conservative side
You wouldn’t want something where you’re chest is exposed, there’s not back and there’s a big slit up the leg
That’s all I’m saying
That’s my point
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:10 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
We are just looking out for you. Liz is right. Most women would go to Macy’s or Filene’s to get a dress. They would also want to surprise the man and not let him know what they are wearing.
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:11 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
That you are not as removed from the situation as you think you are. She has more of a hold on you than you want to admit.
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:12 AM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE:
Yup...
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE:
She’s teasing me, and trying to make me drool, and it’s working...
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:14 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! TEASING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! See why we are concerned??????
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:17 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!! I just have a bad feeling about this one. I think she is rebounding HARD and sees your interest and is running with it. Heck, I was dating someone at B-MS but still dress respectively at the Holiday party.
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:18 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
Honey.
We’re both now getting a little WORRIED for you.
We’re not trying to be deliberately ugly to you.
We just have to raise an eyebrow to this situation and scrutinize it.
Come on !
Aren’t we the two who have been so happy and excited for you in all of this?????
Why would we be changing our tunes if it wasn’t for something that’s real...and I think we’re both seeing a warning flag going up here....
We aren’t trying to piss you off.
That’s the last thing either of us want.....
We just want to make sure this girl is QUALITY and that she’s DESERVING of YOU ! !
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:25 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
Exactly. Being women, we know how women think and the games they play. We don’t want to see you hurt and are concerned that she is playing with your feelings. BUT..... since we also know that no matter what we say, you will still have these feelings for her and will still be seeing her, know that we are here to pick up the pieces when they fall.
From: Emily
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:35 AM
To: Dan
Subject: RE:

From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:42 AM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE:
The other dress that she’s thinking about,
I told her that I think that this is the better choice
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:45 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
Yes, better, but the back still isn’t too appropriate.
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:40 AM
To: Emily
Subject: RE:
To be perfectly honest, I think that this dress is the better choice.
As much as I love the other dress, Some people might not think it would be
the best choice for a company party,
You would look amazing in it, but we have a lot of prudish people working
here who might think it was a little risky.
This dress however has a little bit more sophistication to it, but also a
hint of sensuality with the open back.
I really really like this dress!!!
From: Emily
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:42 AM
To: Dan
Subject: RE:
Yeah I was wondering that myself....I love the back to this dress, plus it
is more me. Plus I love strapless dresses. I think this one is better
too...a little more money, but worth it
From: Dan
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:45 AM
To: Liz, Jules
Subject: RE:
See.....
She’s not a Ho!! or a Tease!!
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:57 AM
To: Dan, Liz
Subject: Re: FW:
Li z - Do you want to take this or should I?
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:00 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
Go get ‘em Jules....
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:08 AM
To: Liz, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
Women choose their wording VERY carefully. Also, it is not what she says, but how she acts. Actions speak so much louder than words. She is teasing you by sending you pictures and getting a reaction out of you. So... in that manner, yes, she is a tease. As I stated earlier, most women would not be showing you what they are planning on wearing. They would want to surprise. They don’t want you imagining what they will look like in a certain dress. It is all about the initial reaction when you first see them in the dress. It is the element of surprise. And I am sure this is from Frederick’s also and that implies Ho’. There is no getting around that.
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:23 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
See.
I’m thinking that regardless of where this new dress is from it’s still inappropriate.
Sure she’s covered from the waist down but from the waist up - - - on her back - - - there’s next to nothing there.
As I said before.
A dress she can wear a bra in without having everyone see the bra.
And, honestly, I have to agree with Jules.
I’m getting the feeling that she’s just looking for a reaction from you.
And just trying to “tease” you by sending you these pictures.
Key word of the day.
CLASSY
Classy does not mean exposed back, belly or thighs....
Classy means covered
Classy does not mean burqua....but a sense of leaving something to the imagination.
CLASSY
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:23 AM
To: Jules, Dan
Subject: RE: FW:
WELL SAID JULES !
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And In Sidebar Conversation…
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:16 AM
To: Jules
Subject: RE:
I think he’s getting pissed at us (probably me more than you b/c I’m being so blunt....)
But WTF is that dress?!?!?!?!?
And WTF is up with shopping at Frederick’s?!?!?!?!?!?
I think she’s just toying with him and getting off on the fact that he’s salivating so much ! ! ! !
She can SMELL his desperation and she’s using it to her advantage ! ! ! !
Me thinks I don’t like her already ! ! ! !
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:27 AM
To: Liz
Subject: RE: FW:
I think you are right. We know women and their games much better than he does. And you know this girl is BAD news. Yes, I picked what I wore to the B-MS party carefully to entice J.D., but I also made sure that it was appropriate for a company party. What she has picked out to wear is not appropriate. She is going to break his heart and we will have to pick up the pieces.
From: Liz
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:40 AM
To: Jules
Subject: RE:
You know those claws of mine?
That Mamma bear protectiveness I have for all of my friends?
It’s coming out BIG TIME right now.
I am NOT approving of her anymore.
SOMETHING is wrong here.
He’s been saying how “sweet” and “nice” she is and those types of girls who are really that way don’t wear those types of outfits ! ! ! !
And p.s.
I was talking to him last night and he was like “she had to order the dress in size 2 but she’ll probably have to get it altered.
I don’t think he even realizes that when you buy ho clothes that it’s typically made out of the same stuff Halloween costumes are made out of ! Altering something like that isn’t really an option !
ALSO !
Let me say that when I was a size 0...yes, once upon a time ago I really was that small....and I KNEW how good I looked I STILL wouldn’t have EVER walked out of the house in a dress like that. It’s a matter of pride on oneself and if she chooses to wear something like that out in public then I think it says a lot about her self image and the way in which she wants to be seen by others. Honestly, when she walks out in that thing men and women alike are going to wonder how much she charges ! ! ! !
I can honestly say I’m scared for him.....
I really am....
Did you see the picture of her?
He sent me one and I couldn’t get a good read on her.....
Though the one thing I DID see and I TOLD him was that I could see that though she seems sweet that she’s got a b!tch lurking inside if she doesn’t get her way.....
From: Jules
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:27 AM
To: Liz
Subject: RE: FW:
I totally agree with you. I am really concerned about her. Now, why did the relationship with the ex end? I am wondering if she is the type that needs a man in her life so she won’t let one go until she finds the next. She is going to hurt him BADLY.